81 *Sigh*zuki

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Re: 81 *Sigh*zuki

Postby *sigh* on 13 Apr 2010, 13:23

gr8paradox wrote:This one shouldn't be too hard to do either. Do you have the basic OEM diagram ? Check out these bare bones diagrams.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=763
Should be easy to adapt. You will also find some links in the vault to on line manuals.


Sweet! Thanks man. I think the only thing that threw me for a loop was that the Zuki has only 1 spark unit. My bike has a gear indicator which I'm gonna keep; but I figured that one out quick (it was it's own nicely wrapped group of wires) and I want the neutral indicator, I have pretty gnarly idea for those group of lights; but we'll see how it pans out. The "bare bones" diagram is down right perfect, simple (nothing shiny to distract me). So hopefully I can get this done tonight, been so nice out, I MUST RIDE!
*note to self, don't chop the ONLY bike you have to ride*
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Re: 81 *Sigh*zuki

Postby *sigh* on 17 Apr 2010, 10:36

Ok, so the electrical was kicking my ass. I thought I had it but it wouldn't charge, I couldn't figure out what a couple wires did, blah blah blah. While looking for a color wire diagram I stumbled across the lil nugget on info.

This just might help anyone else who ever builds a Suzuki GS.


TECHNICAL ISSUE DETAILS
"Suzuki's GS models all use a permanent magnet alternator system for charging the battery. This system consists of a stator with three output leads and a regulator/rectifier which rectifies the stator AC output to DC and regulates it to 14.4Vdc to charge the battery. Problem however is that the way Suzuki handled the regulation on these bikes is not very good. To save expense in the regulation circuits Suzuki decided not to regulate all three phase inputs (all three wires coming from the stator), but only ONE. One of the three wires from the stator (YELLOW) feeds directly into the rectifier circuit without ANY regulation. One of the three stator wires (WHITE/BLUE) feeds into the rectifier AND has a regulation circuit attached to it. The third stator wire (WHITE/GREEN) feeds into into the bike wiring harness, connects inside the headlight to the handlebar switch and comes back from the handlebar switch as a WHITE/RED wire which connects directly into the rectifier bridge without ANY regulation. Inside the handlebar switch the connection between WHITE/GREEN and WHITE/RED is made when the lights are turned on (which is not an option on US models, so the connection between these wires is continuous). NOTE: the stator output is identical on all three wires. The three different colors are not needed, it does not matter how you hook up the stator wires as long as you hook them all up. The result of this cost cutting is an unbalanced load on the stator (the stator wants to see an equal load on all three phase outputs) which causes premature stator failure. Our replacement regulator/rectifier regulates on ALL THREE PHASE INPUTS. This means that the load on the three phase outputs of the stator is equal, greatly improving the system and its reliability. Our ESR models for these Suzukis therefore have THREE YELLOW INPUTS. And it does not matter which YELLOW wire connects to which stator output wire. We recommend removing the loop through the wiring harness and connect the WHITE/GREEN stator wire directly into the regulator/rectifier. If you replace the OEM stator with one of our ESG stators you will notice also that the output leads of this new stator are all YELLOW. We also recommend checking all electrical connections in these bikes. The connectors are not that great, and the bikes are fairly old by now. Clean the connectors one by one with some contact cleaner and make sure the bullet style connectors are tight. Our faultfinding chart: Fault Finding Guide will be a great help in diagnosing when you have a charging problem on these Suzukis."

http://www.electrosport.com/technical-r ... _56350.php

I got irritated and brought the bike home to work on it. So out to the garage........
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Re: 81 *Sigh*zuki

Postby *sigh* on 18 Apr 2010, 23:43

Got it all back together and went out for a couple hour ride. I need to clean the carbs; but other than that, had a blast. I'll post some pics tomorrow.
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Re: 81 *Sigh*zuki

Postby *sigh* on 19 Apr 2010, 09:47

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Wiring almost done!

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Getting late; but WILL get fin! The shifter peg is a .270 shell. I won a competition shoot with that shell.

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The brake peg is a 50 bmg out of a Barret 50 call. $5 bucks a shot; but the experience off shooting that gun was priceless, thought it only proper to include it on the bike.

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Re: 81 *Sigh*zuki

Postby mutant on 19 Apr 2010, 12:04

Nice work man. I dig the crazy looking seat spring! Paint came out great also- glad you went for color on the rear fender. Try running some seafoam through the carbs before tearing them down. Sometimes it's all that's needed.

Nice work.

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Re: 81 *Sigh*zuki

Postby *sigh* on 19 Apr 2010, 14:17

mutant wrote:Nice work man. I dig the crazy looking seat spring! Paint came out great also- glad you went for color on the rear fender. Try running some seafoam through the carbs before tearing them down. Sometimes it's all that's needed.

Nice work.

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Thanks man. I like the fender painted myself; but painting over chrome seriously sucked, oh well I like the look better. I put in some seafoam last night when it started sputtering. It seems to be working, hopefully I won't have to tear down. Took my lunch break to go for a cruise, check the oil, air pressure, check for loosening bolts, etc. You know all the stuff that might keep me and the bike alive!
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Re: 81 *Sigh*zuki

Postby *sigh* on 22 Apr 2010, 11:35

Did a little car adjusting. Ran seafoam through a couple tanks of gas. I cleaned the plugs and ran pure seafoam through the carbs (the engine ran on it to) it blew smoke for 2 minutes, then ran much much better. I'm still waiting on the jet set I ordered; but at least it'll 55mph now.

Here's a shitty cell phone video of it. Sound quality sucks to.

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Ok, so I liked the racing stripes on the tank; BUT with the tank on the bike I'm not fealin 'em AT ALL! I don't want flames and scallops are over done...... I'll think of something and it's gonna be crappy out for like a week here, so maybe I'll think of something cool.
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Re: 81 *Sigh*zuki

Postby *sigh* on 30 Apr 2010, 20:32

Put the bike down on Sunday. Some dumb ass biatch, messin with her cell phone pulled right out in front of me. Quick decision, smash into car? or lock 'em and pray? Well, brakes work good, Ground kinda hard, few scratches, bent peg, bent shifter, bent seat hinge etc. 8-10 hours later, looks good again. "What happened to the chic?" She saw me hit the ground and she hit the gas. :evil:

New main jets came in today. I was kinda pissed they sent me 8 of the EXACT SAME SIZE!! Why?! No fucking idea, I know I ordered 2 of 4 different sizes; but they are closed for the day and it's a weekend.

Ok done bitching cause they did send the size I needed. Carbs aren't 100% dialed in yet; but now it screams. It sounds different to. I'm just glad I can get my rpms over 4500/5000 (which means I can start speeding again) anyway that's what I got for now. Have a nice weekend and watch for stupid people they're everywhere.
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